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Updates available install on restart?

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Kirsten Ruhl
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Updates available install on restart?

Post by Kirsten Ruhl » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:56 pm

A window showing "Updates Available" hangs out in right hand upper corner of my screen.

Since it says "restart to install" - what happens if I restart for some other reason?

Does it take the opportunity to install the updates available?
I don't think so, but it seems to be what it says would happen...

Unrelated P.S.: I have finally figured out that if I convert a .tiff to a .png it attaches here and shows itself readily. Attaching .pdf in an earlier post didn't turn out so well.
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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Stephen Hart » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:44 pm

That's a problem in macOS. It's a Notification. If you accept the Notification, you assume App Store will download and install the update.

What I always want is the choice: Show Details in App Store.

But no, what I have to do is ignore the Notification and launch App Store and click Updates and wait a while, and then, finally, I can see what the Notification is about.

This is important because sometimes the update is a 10 minute download. Sometimes it's a 13 hour download (macOS version). The latter shuts down our internet for any other purposes, and often fails.

So, bottom line, I always just open App Store and see what the update is, and then schedule accordingly.
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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Kirsten Ruhl » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:26 pm

Well, Stephen,

I guess it means I cannot restart my computer without first checking app store.

What if I shut down my computer?
When I start up again does that tell updates to install?

Related question: Are the updates available always related only to items already on my computer?
e.g..: Might it give me available updates for High Sierra which isn't installed on my computer...?

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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by rickj » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:07 pm

If you click in any part of the notification except the Restart or Later buttons, it will open the Mac App Store. If you then quit, it won't bug you about the update for a while.
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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Kirsten Ruhl » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:13 am

Thank you, Rick,

That is a valuable trick to get rid of that little window.
I tried it and it worked!

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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Stephen Hart » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:12 am

rickj wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:07 pm
If you click in any part of the notification except the Restart or Later buttons, it will open the Mac App Store. If you then quit, it won't bug you about the update for a while.
Who knew? I have never read that before. That is a really good tip.
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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Stephen Hart » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:19 am

Kirsten Ruhl wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:26 pm
I guess it means I cannot restart my computer without first checking app store.

What if I shut down my computer?
When I start up again does that tell updates to install?

Related question: Are the updates available always related only to items already on my computer?
e.g..: Might it give me available updates for High Sierra which isn't installed on my computer...?
1. You can restart or shut down if you want to. If the Notification or the App Store includes a restart as part of the instructions, that's always (or almost always) an indication that the update is the OS. It's not clear to me what would happen if you shut down your Mac after the App Store has finished downloading an update, but you can check in the App Store again later. I don't think you could interrupt the update process with a normal shutdown. But pulling the plug or a power outage as it's installing would be a bad thing. (I almost never restart or shut down my Mac.)
2.Yes updates are always related only to apps installed on your Mac. Again, if you look in the App Store, it'll tell you all the details. I think macOS is treated like an app installed on your computer.
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Re: Updates available install on restart?

Post by Kirsten Ruhl » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:29 pm

Stephen,

Your answer to my 2nd question was very important. I thank you.
2.Yes updates are always related only to apps installed on your Mac.

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